To be fair this summer has been one of the best BBs all the way. I put it down to the fact that the producers have stopped trying too hard to force conflict and twists on us because they arent desperate to keep people "interested".

When nothing lived up to BB5 (Jungle Cats v Drama Queens). They over did it, interfered too much, loaded the house with too many aggressive "controversial" idiots and generally killed the show over the past few years by forgetting what made the show good in the first place... putting a bunch of people in a confined space and leaving them alone to do their own thing. As soon as the producers started to force things they ruined it. This summer has been much more relaxed and fun and as a result its been one of the most fun series.

Ultimate BB has been ok, too many celebs for me but they have still brought back most of the best characters... I sincerly hope with all my BB watching heart that Victor (my all time favourite housemate) takes the UBB crown. He wont though, Brain will and always was going to.

Couldn't have put it better myself, Karrde Mind you, you do contradict yourself a little

They over did it, interfered too much, loaded the house with too many aggressive "controversial" idiots...
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sincerly hope with all my BB watching heart that Victor (my all time favourite housemate) takes the UBB crown

Victor was way too an aggressive idiot when he first appeared, although it has showed this time around just how much of an act that turned out to be when he actually likes the people around him!

You gotta love Brian Dowling though, and he was on form on BB Come Dine With Me last night too. What has Sophie done to her teeth? £11k for teeth that don't even fit her mouth properly!

No no!!! Victor wasnt an aggressive idiot! He got angry when provoked, but we all do that. He was funny, played the game unashamedly and deluded enough to be worth watching. The guy was a classic.

Ah, but did you watch his diary room moments this time around, Karrde? He wanted to deliberately cause friction and argument, especially between Macosi and Ulrika-ka-ka. That is just wrong (but funny!). It turned out that Macosi left and he just likes everyone else too much to cause bother.

I will agree though that Victor is far from an idiot, although he got mixed up last night when stating it is only humans that date for life. I think he meant it is only humans who have recreational sex...?

Admittedly though, he played the game, which is why he has taken so well to Nick. Until last night's Feltz, I had completely forgotten he told everybody that his wife had died in a car crash in Australia!

Wanting to cause friction between others falls under the game playing category. Not sure it is wrong in that environment - it would be in real life, but not on a game show. More fool Ulrika and Makosi if they had fallen for it

Victor getting mixed up is part of his charm, he has always fallen just short of what he wants to portray himself as and thats whats so funny about him. Im thinking of occasions from his original run, when he was ranting mad in the diary room because he was getting cold showers. Trying to portray himself as properly angry, dangerous and gangster... but ending by saying its giving him "the sniffles"

I remember that now. I do see where you are coming from. I guess I just don't like wind-up merchants.

Good last show so far.

Good send off all round, the final and the extra shows were all good.