You're still missing the point. Chile (for example) wasn't the world's sole superpower and hadn't emerged as the apparent victor from the Cold War. The nations are on a different scale even if the numbers of dead aren't.

And that's what makes it as significant as it is.[/quote]

Its not materially different from Pearl Harbour is it?

And hundreds of other events throughout history that have set about a set of following reactions

No need. Certain that most reasonably minded people agree those who lost their lives on 9/11 should be remembered with respect.

RIP

A few bone chilling facts in this link, including that 1,717 did not receive any body parts http://nymag.com/news/articles/wtc/1year/numbers.htm

10 years ago today.

Nothing but condolences etc on this thread today please.

RIP to all the innocents that died.

Well said murf...

R.I.P.

well said murf RIP

That's how RIP threads are usually treated, if you haven't got anything 'good' to say, say nothing.

RIP all those of many nationalities and religions who died on this day ten years ago, and the many more in NY and around the world who have died in the ten years since from the direct and indirect consequences of 9/11.

Well said Murf.

RIP.

RIP.

Of course it was a terrible event, but am i alone in feeling uncomfortable with the Hollywood movie treatment of it?

3,450 people were killed on Britain's roads in 2001 and 37,000 seriously injured

Just a little more perspective

All someones father, mother, son, daughter, friends ..............................

You're probably not alone, no.

But a certain proportion of those dead on the roads will be due to their own fault, whereas all those on 9/11 were unwitting victims.

And was it not roughly half of those who died had no trace left at all for their families to have a physical form to say goodbye to?

Being vapourised.......

It was a terrible event and many were left without loved ones

I'm not arguing that one set of deaths is more tragic than another

In fact quite the opposite; its the implicit suggestion that those who died in 9/11 were more important than any other deaths that sits uneasily with me.

There are no heroes here. Just sad loss of life of some ordinary people.

Leave the Hollywood schmultz and sound tracks alone.

groomyd, that's a pretty crap comparison to be honest. mass murder naturally is more evocative, shocking, upsetting to the relatives, and yes newsworthy than victims of accident. do you also bemoan the 'hollywood treatment' of the baby p murder because other children die from say cot death?

Nothing like diverting a thread.

Yes. And if you do a search you'll see i very much do.

50 (yes fifty) kids are killed by their parents or guardians in the UK every year. Yes that's right, one a week, every week.

THAT is the issue and yet the way baby p was reported you'd think it was a one off

Not for a second to a belittle the deaths of baby p and those who died in 9/11, i want to make that very clear, but the bottom line is that we focus on them more than other deaths because for their different reasons they make a better media story.

This is a 9/11 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY THREAD.


Go away and start your own thread for road deaths and murders if it bothers you.

Have agree with the guy who posted before me... If you're going to have the 'middle class guilt' debate David... leave it just a few more hours hey?

Oh purleeze Rich! If you knew any of them then fine ....................

Well said DOT.

yes several colleagues for starters

NEXT!!!!!!!!!!

9/11 was a truly unique and horrific event because it was mass murder played out for the whole day live on TV for the whole world to see. If I could chose to, I wish I hadn't seen (and heard!) the victims fall to their deaths from the WTC. It changed a city, a country, and probably the world fundamentally. Its absolutely right that the world uses the ten year anniversary to give thought to the victims, and then tomorrow as to whether reaction to 9/11 was the right course.

Yes, road safety needs a different thread.

I didn't know any but I think it's right to take a day off from the overly liberal retoric and blantant histrionics... and I speak as a politically floating voter.

R.I.P. again

Why do certain people feel the need to post on this thread in a controversial way when it is only here to give Fiso'ers somewhere to pay their respects. Are you the same people that feel the need to talk through minute's silences at sporting events etc.

As someone who lost a parent in a car accident I understand that the various anniversaries associated with that are personal to myself and my family.

However those that lost their lives in the various atrocities of 9/11 who were basically cold-bloodedly murdered in a very public fashion have every right (IMO) to be paying their respects in that same public way.
I don't see this as being a 'they are more imprtant that anyone else' but more a coming together of a nation in mourning. The whole of NY and beyond were touched by this single event which is why the whole of New York and beyond come together on this anniversary.

RIP to the victims of that day

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source ... qmKWwZPUIA

RIP DAISY..


DOT.

Seems odd that you cant grasp the obvious fact that your comparing a years deaths with what happened in one day & I'm certainly not belittling the grief of family's from road deaths, well certainly not intentionally.

Perspective? You need a like for like to have perspective, not conjure up similar 'numbers' that happen over the course of a year & even more ridiculous to compare it over a 17 year period in Chile.

Was this really too much to ask?

The deaths of 9/11 was obviously more major for more reasons than one. It started off a new war, trillions of dollars etc. and the extent of it.

Imagine if you were in the top half of the building, when the plane struck, you were either going to burn to death, or you'd have to jump out and end it all very quick after your life flashes before you with a SPLAT.

Or if you were on the plane, knew you were going to die, could do nothing about it. It all happened so fast you could be in the WTC on the phone or signing a cheque, a moment later you're melted to the floor.

it doesnt bear thinking about..... we all face death every day anything could happen to any one of us...but all these poor sods did was go to work to earn a living and future for their family and what did they get it all taken away from them...what for what did it acheive...it was so senseless