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Re: The Losers' Thread- Worst Enablers 2012-13
22 May 2013, 20:35GreenPilgrim wrote:Alot of people including myself started with Tim Krul, who looked a great VFM choice but injuries and Newcastle's poor form made it a season to forget for him. Glad I got rid in the first transfer window.
Ditto
Plus, I'd like to mumble another name, so maybe no one will hear and poke fun at me .....Andre-Santos.
Ok Ok- stop throwing food at me.
I did manage to swap him out quick though- and he got me 5 points up to the first window. A half decent score compared to many defenders at the time.
And I still managed to win the works league, so there:p -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
21 May 2013, 13:26Groomyd wrote:Tricky Tree wrote:I was going to reply but it isn't really worth it is it....
Tricky - you think players want to win trophys - and of course they do - but how anyone can believe that players dont follow the money as the biggest single driver of player employment is beyond me. Its plain silliness.
Yes RVP will win more at Utd - but he has also more than doubled his salary!
He could have trebled his salary at City who were the current champions so money wouldn`t be his motivation,winning something more than the Emirates cup in his career would have though.
His main problem would have been seeing his team of 8 years being turned into a possible cup team and an also ran in the league team.
When you see players of the calibre of Squillaci,Park,Chamakh and Santos coming in then you know its time to go as they ain`t good enough for Lossiemouth let alone Celtic.
And you keep spouting utter rubbish that you can`t compete with other clubs over salary,yes you can,you just choose to waste most of your budget on total shit instead of paying that little bit extra for the likes of Mata and Hazard and others you could have had who win things in their 1st season.
Wenger has took Arsenal from Invincibles to also rans in less than a decade which is bad management -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
19 May 2013, 21:17Groomyd wrote:- all top players want CL football and it's hard to get them without it - ask Liverpool
Does that mean Chamakh, Arshavin, Squilachi & Santos will all stay
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Re: Footballs greatest ever club teams
05 May 2013, 9:52trampie wrote:1] Real Madrid 1956-60
2] Ajax 1971-73
3] Bayern Munich 1974-76
4] River Plate 1941-45
5] Torino 1945-49
6] AC Milan 1989-90
7] Santos 1962-63
8] Barcelona 2009-11
9] Boca Juniors 2000-03
10] Penarol 1960-61
11] Flamengo 1980-83
12] Estudiantes 1968-70
13] Benfica 1961-63
14] Internazionale 1964-65
15] Sao Paulo 1991-94
16] Independiente 1972-75
17] Juventus 1996-98
18] Celtic 1967
19] Tottenham 1961-63
20] Nacional 1971
21] Manchester Utd 1999
22] Liverpool 1977-78
23] Red Star Belgrade 1991
24] Corinthians 1998-2000
25] Palmeiras 1999
26] Feyenoord 1970
27] Honved 1954
28] Wolves 1954
29] Athletic Bilbao 1929-36
30] Leeds 1974-75
No further movement at the top of the list for Barca after losing their champions league crown in 2012 [and almost certainly their La Liga title as well].
Barca's run has stalled after a second successive champions league semi final defeat, it doesn't look as if they will be going any higher up the list. -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
26 Apr 2013, 17:28Achiles74 wrote:And now get this, they are going to give Man Utd a guard of honour at the weekend.
Actually, I hear Santos has flown back for the weekend to give RVP his own very personal tribute. -
Re: Anyone else pleased/happy for Robin Van Persie?
23 Apr 2013, 13:42Groomyd wrote:rossn13 wrote:You can't expect to win anything if you keep selling your star player every season. Especially to your rivals.
If a player wants to go then there is nothing you can do except try to get the most money you can for him
£24m was good business for a 29 year old with 1 year left on his contract
He wanted to go to Utd - so we cant sell him to where he doesnt want to go - of course we'd have prefered to sell him abroad but you cant impose that on a player who holds all the cards.
Or you do can what Ferguson has done at Old Trafford, don't allow the quality of the squad to depreciate.
When exactly is the penny going to drop with you? RVP did not want to be part of club in decline, part of a club that had been selling its best players for years, part of a club that stockpiles cash yet keeps relying on crocks like Diaby, part of a club that pays £60k+ per week to donkeys like Andre Santos, Marouane Chamakh and Johan Djourou.
Yet refuses to reward its top players sufficiently.
Of course, you will say he had to be sold, because you can't bare to see any criticism of the way Wenger has taken us from serious title contenders to mediocrity in the last few seasons. -
Re: Suarez has just bitten Ivanovic!
22 Apr 2013, 23:17Achiles74 wrote:Wiz wrote:Jagduracell wrote:Why do you think Suarez has been "hounded since he got here" and other foreign players such as Henry, Bergkamp, Van Persie, Silva, Mata, Cristiano Ronaldo etc weren't hounded in the same way when they have been similarly some of the most creative and "most worthy of being jealous of" players to play in England?
I love watching him play and as a player would have lovde to have him at my club (Arsenal) but would be embarassed if he was (although embarassed in a different way to having had Andre Santos)
Ronaldo was definitely slated as a diving one trick pony for the first couple of years he played for Man Utd, after the winking incident he was the most hated man in England for about 3 months
, it shows how fickle footy fans are though. 
And you try to imply that other foreign players were not hated, well try Drogba, Adebayer and El-Hadji Diouf for just 3.
Only one of those is universally hated like Suarez and that's because, like Suarez, he's a complete and utter scumbag - nothing to do with the fact they are foreign. -
Re: Suarez has just bitten Ivanovic!
22 Apr 2013, 23:15Wiz wrote:Jagduracell wrote:Why do you think Suarez has been "hounded since he got here" and other foreign players such as Henry, Bergkamp, Van Persie, Silva, Mata, Cristiano Ronaldo etc weren't hounded in the same way when they have been similarly some of the most creative and "most worthy of being jealous of" players to play in England?
I love watching him play and as a player would have lovde to have him at my club (Arsenal) but would be embarassed if he was (although embarassed in a different way to having had Andre Santos)
Ronaldo was definitely slated as a diving one trick pony for the first couple of years he played for Man Utd, after the winking incident he was the most hated man in England for about 3 months , it shows how fickle footy fans are though.
And you try to imply that other foreign players were not hated, well try Drogba, Adebayer and El-Hadji Diouf for just 3. -
Re: Suarez has just bitten Ivanovic!
22 Apr 2013, 23:12Wiz wrote:Jagduracell wrote:Why do you think Suarez has been "hounded since he got here" and other foreign players such as Henry, Bergkamp, Van Persie, Silva, Mata, Cristiano Ronaldo etc weren't hounded in the same way when they have been similarly some of the most creative and "most worthy of being jealous of" players to play in England?
I love watching him play and as a player would have lovde to have him at my club (Arsenal) but would be embarassed if he was (although embarassed in a different way to having had Andre Santos)
Ronaldo was definitely slated as a diving one trick pony for the first couple of years he played for Man Utd, after the winking incident he was the most hated man in England for about 3 months , it shows how fickle footy fans are though.
But to be fair he was a diving one trick pny for the first couple of years and yes he became the most hated man in England because he did something to specific to warrant it (a bit like Suarez!!!!) -
Re: Suarez has just bitten Ivanovic!
22 Apr 2013, 23:09Jagduracell wrote:Why do you think Suarez has been "hounded since he got here" and other foreign players such as Henry, Bergkamp, Van Persie, Silva, Mata, Cristiano Ronaldo etc weren't hounded in the same way when they have been similarly some of the most creative and "most worthy of being jealous of" players to play in England?
I love watching him play and as a player would have lovde to have him at my club (Arsenal) but would be embarassed if he was (although embarassed in a different way to having had Andre Santos)
Ronaldo was definitely slated as a diving one trick pony for the first couple of years he played for Man Utd, after the winking incident he was the most hated man in England for about 3 months , it shows how fickle footy fans are though. -
Re: Suarez has just bitten Ivanovic!
22 Apr 2013, 23:00Wiz wrote:Jagduracell wrote:Wiz wrote:Tricky Tree wrote:Wiz wrote:
If you don't want to get bitten keep your f*@king arms from round his neck and head next time you play against him
Is this a sad joke
What the whole post or just the fact that the media goes mental when Suarez does something but nothing when Chelsea players beat up ball boys and try to end referees careers?
There is the issue. You are comparing one player, Suarez, to a whole club. Chelsea have a number of players that do things to take issue with (Cole, Terry, Hazard etc) yet it seems that whenever Liverpool have an issue it is Suarez to blame.
Perhaps each case in isolation is not too big a matter (if you don't take issue with racism or biting a fellow human) but when it's the same player time and again and he obviously learns nothing from it then surely even Liverpool fans can understand the 'witch hunt' that follows him.
The thing is, I'm not a Liverpool fan.
I think Suarez has been hounded since he got here though, but as the most skillful creative goalscorer and creator in the league I think he gets targeted by jealous fans.
I never said you were a Liverpool fan
Why do you think Suarez has been "hounded since he got here" and other foreign players such as Henry, Bergkamp, Van Persie, Silva, Mata, Cristiano Ronaldo etc weren't hounded in the same way when they have been similarly some of the most creative and "most worthy of being jealous of" players to play in England?
I love watching him play and as a player would have lovde to have him at my club (Arsenal) but would be embarassed if he was (although embarassed in a different way to having had Andre Santos) -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
21 Apr 2013, 20:08foxinthebox2001 wrote:Ashers wrote:If Utd win tomorrow, when do they get given the trophy?
Please don't tell me it will be at The Emirates.
Someone already asked this, I can't see any eventuality where United will be given the trophy at Arsenal, they have 2 more home games after Villa, either will be when they will be presented with it.
The Arsenal players will probably give United a guard of honour if they win tomorrow night - happened at Chelsea in 2007. Except Fergie sent a shadow shadow side and they ended up honouring players like Dong who'd made zero contribution.
I think he'll send a stronger team to Arsenal though. Pity Santos has gone, he could have maybe carried RVP in on his back - he seemed pretty keen on him at the Old Trafford game. -
Re: Worst Prem league player of the season.
01 Mar 2013, 11:24
Got to be santos, looks a bit overweight, wanted Rvp shirt at half time, and most arsenal fans would rather play with ten men than bring him on for an injured player. Then sent out on loan never to be seen again. The worst thing is wenger signed him for a fair bit of cash. -
Re: Worst Prem league player of the season.
28 Feb 2013, 11:01
Santos is the stand out although for sheer drop in perfomancefrom last seasobn, Vermaelan takes alot of beating....
Adebayor runs a close second
Joe Allen been shown well out of his depth at a bigger club
Agree with comments on Heitinga & Nani...consistently cack..... -
Re: Worst Prem league player of the season.
27 Feb 2013, 22:29Jagduracell wrote:Andre Santos - Time to close the thread I reckon
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Re: Worst Prem league player of the season.
27 Feb 2013, 21:10
United: Welbeck
City: Tevez by his standards
Spurs: Adebayor & even Siggy
Chelsea: Torres
Everton: Jelavic
Arsenal: Andre Santos
QPR: Dyer
Aston Villa: Bent
Newcastle: Cisse -
Re: Worst Prem league player of the season.
27 Feb 2013, 21:08Jagduracell wrote:Andre Santos - Time to close the thread I reckon
Thought so too
As much as Torres, Cisse, etc. have been crap, they haven't directly contributed to losses like Santos. Reina's still pulled off great saves, but I've never seen Santos make a match-saving tackle, just a match losing one. -
Re: Worst Prem league player of the season.
27 Feb 2013, 21:05AKNel1 wrote:United: Rooney ?
City: Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon ?
Spurs: Adebayor
Chelsea: Marin, Torres
Everton: Jelavic
Arsenal: Andre Santos
West Brom: Odemwingie (just for the QPR debacle)
Liverpool: Shelvey
Swansea: Sheckther
Stoke: Walters
Sunderland: Adam Johnson, McLean, Larsson, Sessegnon ?
West Ham: Carroll ?
Fulham: Berbatov ?
Reading: Pogrebnyak
Southampton: Gaston Ramirez
Wigan: di Santo ?
QPR: Bosingwa, Park Ji-Sung,
Aston Villa: Bent, Ireland
Newcastle: Cisse, Tiote
Norwich: Holt ?
What is disturbing to me right now, is how many of those players would improve our liverpool squad
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Re: Worst Prem league player of the season.
27 Feb 2013, 20:55
United: Rooney ?
City: Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon ?
Spurs: Adebayor
Chelsea: Marin, Torres
Everton: Jelavic
Arsenal: Andre Santos
West Brom: Odemwingie (just for the QPR debacle)
Liverpool: Shelvey
Swansea: Sheckther
Stoke: Walters
Sunderland: Adam Johnson, McLean, Larsson, Sessegnon ?
West Ham: Carroll ?
Fulham: Berbatov ?
Reading: Pogrebnyak
Southampton: Gaston Ramirez
Wigan: di Santo ?
QPR: Bosingwa, Park Ji-Sung,
Aston Villa: Bent, Ireland
Newcastle: Cisse, Tiote
Norwich: Holt ? -
Re: Worst Prem league player of the season.
27 Feb 2013, 20:45
Santos
Brad Jones -
Re: Worst Prem league player of the season.
27 Feb 2013, 20:43
Andre Santos - Time to close the thread I reckon -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
24 Feb 2013, 13:46crispybits wrote:Tricky Tree wrote:I don't think it's just bad signings. Cazorla has been a great addidtion. Giroud and Podolski have done jobs.
It's more that other clubs have moved forward in their scouting, Arsenal have perhaps stayed the same (gone backwards in france. I understand Giles Grimandi is chief scout in France now? Jobs for the boys?)
The worst three things in recent years are...
the refulsal to take a risk (thus losing at least one title)
the refusal to understand fans/players want silverware, it keeps fans happy and players at your club
the over paying and keeping of utter dross, the players rumoured to be on £60k at the club is scary and miss mangement plain and simple
Does Wenger have the same mindset with staff as he does with players? As in he wants them to have been inside his system long(ish) term so they understand how it works?
The other (just as important) problems are Wenger's stubbornness in playing to his 'system' and having no alternative plan to switch to, depending on the significance of the scoreline. As an example, if we were gifted an own goal, and a fluke early in a Barcelona away tie for a 2-0 half time lead. He would never change tactics to make us harder to break down and close out a result.
He would play exactly the same way to look to score again and probably concede 2 or 3.
When it comes to tactics, he is no Mourhino.
Secondly, the coaching of specific defensive formations, doing the homework of marking particular players at dead ball situations does it happen? You could have fooled me.
Thirdly, the sticking with players who are clearly inferior. Eboue, Djorou, Santos, Gervinho.
This can also be blamed for the fact there is no one to keep Szczęsny on his toes, to make him work for his position in the team, actually goes for a few positions. -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
24 Feb 2013, 11:13
Arsenal are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world and have 10's of millions which the manager in his wisdom has chosen not to spend.....
I guess this new '4th place is success' culture which now appears to be the core of wegners mantra is only fooling this who believe another batch of invincibles is only a few signings away of the ilk of schillachi, park, chamakh, Santos et al......... -
Sun Ratings Saturday February 24th
24 Feb 2013, 9:34
Six games played yesterday and no arguments, from me at least, with any of the starmen, JUST OBVIOUSLY WITH A FEW OF THE RATINGS.
Here we go.
The Mercenaries v The Champions
8 CESAR ( mercenary who AT LEAST performed)
5 BOZWINGER (mercenary)
6 I AINT FIT SAMBA (mercenary)
5 HILL (completely over it pal)
5 TRAORE (shite)
5 MBIA (mercenary)
6 TOWNSEND (not a mercenary and gives 100 pct)
5 GRANERO (mercenary)
6 MACKIE (trys)
4 TAARABT (must of believed they lost before they started as very inept today...odd)
5 ZAMORA (arfur daley says he needs an op so what does he do.. he starts him )
subs
5 jenas
6 remy
5 hoilett
7 DE GEA (another good save with his hands today- he has finally found them)
9 RAFAEL STARMAN(hate the player but great goal and performance)
7 PLUG
7 VIDIC (shud of scored)
7 EVRA
7 NANI (2 games in a week ..kinell)
7 CARRICK
8 GIGGS (scored one- cheeky chip also hit bar)
6 YOUNG (well off form shud be dropped for remainder of season)
6 RVP (shud of buried Rafaels exquisite chip/cross)
7 CHICO (unlucky with fantastic neck/header attempt)
subs
6 wellbeck( for me shud of scored a 7 , his tenacity and ball winning from nothing resulted in Giggs goal)
6 shrek (ACCORDING TO THATS SCOTS eff LIAR HE WAS OUT OF THE GAME TODAY)
6 vaseline
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Chokers v Villa at the stadium of empty seats
7 SEZ- (regardless of making a couple of saves the howler for the goal shud not merit a 7 JOKE MARK)
5 JENKINSON (pub player and played like one)
5 SUPERTANKER
6 VERMIN
5 NACHO (great pass for the goal- nowhere to be seen on numerous villa raids down the wing- positional defensive sense of santos- bale will run riot next week)
6 DIABY (dirty tackle received a yellow)
6 ATITTTER
7 WILTSHIRE (arsenals best player again- well he is- but until he starts scoring some goals will never be great- one premiership career goal for Arsenal)
7 THE ATHLETE (nearly as generous as his 8 joke mark against Bayern)
8 CARZOLA STARMAN (had to be for 2 goals and a win-even if wiltshire was the main performer again)
7 GIRAFFE (i think the match rater is having a giraffe in awarding a 7, was eff hopeless)
subs
6 pub player
6 supersub
5 kocielny
6 GUZAN
5 LOWTON
6 CLARK
6 BAKER
5 BENNETT
6 WESTWOOD
7 DELPH
5 AGBONLAHOR (harsh worked hard, shud of scored, deserved a 7)
6 NZOGBIA
8 WEIMANN (definately one to consider next season- very quick, incisive, talent)
6 BOVVED (cannot believe he chose today to have one of his off days- thought he wanted to showcase his talent for a big move next season- villa would of won if he turned up)
subs
6 el ahmadi
5 dawkins
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BERBATOV V Stoke
8 SCHWARZER ( arsenal shud of signed him 2 seasons back- another assured performance)
7 RIETHER (not riise)
6 DROSS (did his best to gift crouch an equaliser)
6 HANGELAND
6 RIISE (not riether)
7 KARAGOON
6 SIDWELL
7 DEJAGGER
6 RUIZ (rightly booked for handball slap goal, didn't deserve a slap from nzonzi though)
6 DUFF
8 BERBATOV STARMAN(LAZY QUALITY)
subs
5 baird
5 emanuel
5 petric
6 BEGUBITCH
7 SHOTTON
6 SHAWCROSS
6 HOOF (nice forearm smash on sendross)
6 WILSON
5 WALTERS (u r no longer required for pen duties- pass them back to eth)
6 WHELAN
5 NZONZI (deserved red- what a tusser, i mean the reporter for not asking pulis about his petulance)
5 CAMERON
5 ETH
6 CROUCH
subs
6 shea
5 jones
5 jerome
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WBA V Sunderland
7 FOSTER
7 REID
6 McAULEY (really ought to of been pulled up for handball and pen)
7 CATWEASAL
8 ARSEWIPE
7 MORRISON
6 MULUMBU
7 YACOB
8 BRUNT
6 LONG
9 PREDATOR STARMAN(would of had a hatrick but for poor ref)
subs
6 dorans
5 fortune
5 i want to be a mercanry
5 MIGNOLET
6 GARDNER (cannot believe his whinging about the pen)
4 BRAMBLE (eff two bob as was his pass back you fat bustard)
5 O SHITE (skinned even with a 15 yard head start by the predator)
5 COLBACK
6 SESS (harsh- deserved better)
5 LAARSSON
5 N'DIAYE
5 JOHNSON
5 FLETCHER
4 GRAHAM
subs
5 mcclean
5 vaughan
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GRAPPLERS v Everton
6 BUNN
7 MARTIN
8 TURNER (lots of nice grappling and bearhugs all game)
7 BASSONG
6 GARRIDO
7 SNOGSGRASS
7 JOHNSON (koped it from fellaini)
7 HOWSON
5 HOOLIGAN
5 BECCHIO (good turner impressions when defending corners)
6 HOLT (you fat bastard- committment rewarded with late goal)
subs
8 KAMARA STARMAN(fellainis fault)
6 pilington
5 HOWARD
6 COLEMAN
6 JAG
7 DISTIN
6 BAINES (haha eventually)
6 GIBSON
6 OSMAN
5 NAISMITH
7 FELLAINI (5 at best imo)
5 PIENNAR
6 ROBIN WILLIAMS
subs
6 miralles
5 oviedo
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Reading v Wigan
8 FEDERICI
5 KELLY
5 MARIAPPA
4 MORRISON (how did he reclaim his place)
5 HARTE
6 KEBE
5 KARACAN
5 LEIGETWOOD
5 AKPAN
5 HADENOUGH
4 PIG (dirty stamp)
subs
5 le fondre (why does he not get a start)
5 hunt
5 mccleary
6 AL HABSI (did he even see the ball)
7 SCHARNER (will u urry up and dye ur hair)
7 CALDWELL (definate handball resulting in opening goal)
7 FIG (great goal nearly scored another pearler after)
7 BOYCE
7 McCARTHY
7 McARTHUR
6 MALONEY (not like him to be average)
7 DI SANTO (nearly scored a great goal, and missed a eff sitter)
8 PINT OF GUINESS-HEAD STARMAN (more than a handful for anyone- great second goal)
subs
6 gomez
5 alcaraz
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Reflections.
Well Arsenal got a more than fortuetous win against Villa yesterday infront of about 50,000 people although as per usual they gave the crowd out as an INCREDULOUS 60,079.
I watched "Football First" and Dean Sturridge was co-commentating and the first thing he said was "I have never seen so many empty seats at the Emirates before..you see it's not just me talking about it.
Wenger post match said they deserved their win, Lambert post match could not believed they had come away empty handed. Hansen post match, berated Arsenals deficiences defending- and felt Villa at the least deserved a draw. As i neutral i'm in Hansens camp. If they play like that next week Bale will score a hatrick.
United wrapped up the league in west london against the Mercenaries with a contender for goal of the month from Rafael, whose performance yesterday was as good as anything on show anywhere. RVP hobbled off but he will be ok .
Reading look doomed again they have used up all of their lives, and Wigan should of won by 6 or 7 in the end. Why Mcdermott refuses to start with their leading scorer is poor management imo.
Everton came unstuck suprisingly in East Anglia and there were so many similarities from last weeks blip against Oldham
Oldham held everything in their box that was wearing a white shirt(EVERTONS AWAY KIT) and equalised in the 15th second of the 4th minute of the 3 mins injury time that was due to be played.
Norwich (TAKING A LEAF FROM OLDHAM)held everything in a blue shirt in their box- especially turner, and got their winner in the 15th second of the 4th minute of the 3 mins injury time due to be played.
The only difference being this week Moyes got the hump (rightly so) and refused to shake the refs hand, wheras last week against the underdogs he was magnanimous about it all.
The PREDATOR- (Lukaku) contines to put in bamboozaling performances and i cannot fathom how Abramovitch didn't call him back last month or even let Sturridge go as both are scoring goals for fun. BBC, again in their wisdom, deemed not bothering showing in their highlights of the game LUKAKU,S opening goal, which shud of been given, but the ref pulled it back after he had scored and awarded a free-kick instead to WBA. Charlie Nicholas said as much during the game live on soccer saturday, and its all mentioned in the mins of the game on sportinglife,com.;thus robbing Lukaku of a potential hatrick.
I used to like Stoke and Pulis but i am going right off them now.
How can he start against Fulham with such a defensive make-up and attitude. He did it recently against Arsenal and now he is doing it against Strugglers Fulham. Pulis nowdays seems to play for a point in all away games. Its very negative and the Pom wont be happy having several teams riding high in the seasonal Sun comp that will be dropping tamely away as his defence is STOKE CITY in the main. Nzonzi shud of seen red and Pulis shud of been questioned about it and his slap on Ruiz or rather grab of the throat/head. Berbatov oozed class and fittingly his quality goal got the points. Nice to See him share the celebration with an ecstatic Joel (i like him too- shud never of been sacked by spurs)
Player of the Day...
3 players scored a brace today-
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Carzola- who i thought got lucky on his first goal as he mishit his original shot, and the ball rebounds back to him giving him an easy second chance, with Girod and Wiltshire standing in offside positions, possibly impeeding the view of Guzan.
Pint of guiness-head, with a wonderful chipped second goal but a more than lucky first, coming off his chest a yard out- after caldwell had initially flicked the ball on with his arm.
And the Predator, who had a good goal wrongly chalked off, scored a pen, and had his persistance and energy rewarded with a fortuetous bounce back into the goal from Mignolets attempted clearance at point blank range.
so none of the above are my player of the day.
instead it goes to..
for the goal that gave Man United another title.. well done.
Chump of the day
well a few contenders
Nzonzi
Pulis
Fellaini
Moyes
McDermot
The Pig
Nah it goes to all of those 10,000 so called Arsenal supporters that supposedly have bought a ticket for yesterdays match but dont bother turning up.
Empty seats: There was no full house at the Emirates as you can see above
A selection of comments from googling the empty seats yesterday at the library
From Goal.com.
Plenty of empty seats at the Emirates Stadium this afternoon. One seat with a bum in it, though, is that of majority shareholder Stan Kroenke. Not the most popular figure in north London.
Lots of empty seats at the Emirates today. At a guess, 50000 here. #afc
.LONDON, ENGLAND - FEBRUARY 23: Empty seats during the Barclays Premier League match between Arsenal and Aston Villa at the Emirates Stadium on February 23, ....
6 hours ago – Wenger comes out fighting after Arsenal's nervy win over Aston Villa Empty seats: There was no full house at the Emirates. The victory means ...
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16 hours ago – Home; Matches vs. Articles · Mania Articles · A Gooner's ... EPL: Arsenal v Aston Villa - 15:00 - 23/02/13 - Player. David Smith (Lobby ... Commentator said he's never seen so many empty seats at the emirates.. He's trying to be ...
15 hours ago – Villa's dance with relegation intensifies with Wigan's victory at Madejski ... watched his team dispatch Aston Villa with difficulty at the Emirates. ... sold for today's game, but the large amount of empty seats told a different story.
15 hours ago – You are wrong, there were many empty seats at the Emitrates today and if ..... “Arsenal something against Aston Villa at the Emirates today.”
17 hours ago – Plenty of empty seats at the Emirates Stadium this afternoon. ...
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Villa now on top and pushing for the winner ... 1000s of empty seats at the Emirates ...
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Re: What is Driving the Anti-Wenger Agenda?
21 Feb 2013, 22:06Moist von Lipwig wrote:Achiles74 wrote:Arsenal have been very successful under Wenger and it is worth noting that Arsenal have admirable values in not paying over the top for players or breaking the wage structure.
It is very easy to buy success, but much harder to build (constantly) successful teams on resources much more less than the Manchester clubs or Chelsea.
I'd say its the wage structure thats part of the problem and really does need breaking, just not in the way you;d normally do it.
They've the 4th largest wage bill (I think) in the league but the pay the fringe players way over the odds and the stars* too little in comparison. The parity amongst all players is not doing them any favours, too much mediocrity on too much money.
*when they have them
But this true of all the teams outside of manchester clubs/Chelsea, we have to pay over the odds wages for average players in the hope they will become the next big thing (taking a punt on the grab a duck with a stick and hoping it turns out a winner).
As the bigger clubs are going OTT on the wages hence the average players earn in excess of 40k per week.
I think at one point Arsenal had 3 left backs on over 50K per week each (Monreal, Gibbs and Santos). Is that better or worse than keeping Ashley Cole at the time and paying him over 150K?
The answer is subjective, but you can't blame it on Wenger.
Our game is in such a mess because of the actions of Chelsea and Man City. -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
20 Feb 2013, 8:41crispybits wrote:I would argue that for Arsenal to sign a 26 year old and a 28 year old (Park and Santos) given Wenger's general policy of buying young and nurturing them into his style, meant that he believed they were going to be more than mere injury replacements. He said that Park would be a valuable addition to the attacking force. He said that Santos would have a big impact. Hardly the words you expect if someone is signed as a backup.
That was panic buying at its worst, but honestly when would a manager ever badmouth their signings? -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
20 Feb 2013, 8:33
I would argue that for Arsenal to sign a 26 year old and a 28 year old (Park and Santos) given Wenger's general policy of buying young and nurturing them into his style, meant that he believed they were going to be more than mere injury replacements. He said that Park would be a valuable addition to the attacking force. He said that Santos would have a big impact. Hardly the words you expect if someone is signed as a backup. -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
20 Feb 2013, 6:20
But squad players are literally an entirely different matter to starters. Squillaci awful, yes, but Park and Santos were always intended just to step in for injured players -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
19 Feb 2013, 9:36Charade wrote:foxinthebox2001 wrote:Achiles74 wrote:foxinthebox2001 wrote:By saying the false story of him about to be offered a new contract is intended to harm the club, actually shows up how vulnerable Wenger is feeling.
If Arsenal were ever silly enough to get rid of Wenger or not offer him a new contract then 2 clubs would be waiting for him come the end of the season.
Real Madrid - When Jose goes
PSG - A return to France.
And I would bet he would not sell their top players and replace with dross like Park, Santos, and, Chamakh, while leaving millions unspent, so why is he doing it at our club?
Chamakh looked to be a success for a pretty reasonable period of time. Couldn't really put his laces through the ball but scored pretty often. An adequate stand-in for van Persie who simply seemed to lose confidence with a lack of game time. Park and Santos, likewise, were NEVER going to be our 'replacements'. They were always going to be squad players. I don't know if you legitimately believe this or not, but at least criticise the aspects of the club that are common ground
You are splitting hairs here.
Those players were brought to the club with the specific purpose of playing football.
Unless the underused Squillaci for example, signed within days of Gallas's departure has other strings to his bow, maybe he is in the club office, helping with the accounts. -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
19 Feb 2013, 2:53foxinthebox2001 wrote:Achiles74 wrote:foxinthebox2001 wrote:By saying the false story of him about to be offered a new contract is intended to harm the club, actually shows up how vulnerable Wenger is feeling.
If Arsenal were ever silly enough to get rid of Wenger or not offer him a new contract then 2 clubs would be waiting for him come the end of the season.
Real Madrid - When Jose goes
PSG - A return to France.
And I would bet he would not sell their top players and replace with dross like Park, Santos, and, Chamakh, while leaving millions unspent, so why is he doing it at our club?
Chamakh looked to be a success for a pretty reasonable period of time. Couldn't really put his laces through the ball but scored pretty often. An adequate stand-in for van Persie who simply seemed to lose confidence with a lack of game time. Park and Santos, likewise, were NEVER going to be our 'replacements'. They were always going to be squad players. I don't know if you legitimately believe this or not, but at least criticise the aspects of the club that are common ground -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
18 Feb 2013, 23:39foxinthebox2001 wrote:Achiles74 wrote:foxinthebox2001 wrote:By saying the false story of him about to be offered a new contract is intended to harm the club, actually shows up how vulnerable Wenger is feeling.
If Arsenal were ever silly enough to get rid of Wenger or not offer him a new contract then 2 clubs would be waiting for him come the end of the season.
Real Madrid - When Jose goes
PSG - A return to France.
And I would bet he would not sell their top players and replace with dross like Park, Santos, and, Chamakh, while leaving millions unspent, so why is he doing it at our club?
Until Wenger releases his autobiography when he is in his late 70's/80's we will never know if the decision to sell the top players and replace with those who are not the same quality was his or the board.
Would make very good reading if he ever releases one.
However if he was to join RM or PSG and start spending millions on world class players you could put that decision down to the board and not Wenger. -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
18 Feb 2013, 23:32Achiles74 wrote:foxinthebox2001 wrote:By saying the false story of him about to be offered a new contract is intended to harm the club, actually shows up how vulnerable Wenger is feeling.
If Arsenal were ever silly enough to get rid of Wenger or not offer him a new contract then 2 clubs would be waiting for him come the end of the season.
Real Madrid - When Jose goes
PSG - A return to France.
And I would bet he would not sell their top players and replace with dross like Park, Santos, and, Chamakh, while leaving millions unspent, so why is he doing it at our club? -
Re: Chek Tiote arrested for fraud
14 Feb 2013, 14:20AKNel1 wrote:Apparently he's been masquerading as a premiership footballer this season
While his accomplice, Andre Santos got clean away. -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
11 Feb 2013, 18:13
Actually, I thought the question was how Wenger had let it happen (not having enough cover) The fact that TV played for Belgium in that role 2 years ago was not the point as it was said he is a pale imitation of his former self (it is claimed)
I'm personally in the - get rid of Santos as he would/should never be played.
Whether AW deserves criticism for leaving you short is another matter (I don't have a view) -
Re: Arsenal 2012/13
11 Feb 2013, 14:17El Tel of Ealing wrote:Why are you quoting ancient articles with info from 2011?Vermaelen has not been captain of Belgium since November 2011,when he was sacked and Kompany took over.It is as useful and informative as telling us Bale is/was a LB.
My point is why did Wenger get into a Santos or Vermaelen dilemma,with I suppose Miguel in the mix.
The issue is whether he has played at left back not captain
He has, does and will
Why did wenger "get into" a Santos v Vermaelen? He didn't - he off loaded Santos and bought a new full back - the problem is getting a top player in the window who isn't cup tied for the CL.
But we have adequate cover
