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Suarez, Luis

Club: Liverpool
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  • Re: AGUERO
    24 Jul 2014, 10:16

    On the other hand he had the best ppm and ppg stats last year, even beating Suarez...
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  • 1st Draft - RMT PLease
    24 Jul 2014, 9:34

    Hi Guys,

    This is my first draft, so not necessarily my starting 11 come the 16th.

    Selection Reasons
    Fabianski - Cheap, and now that Vorm's gone I see him as Swansea's No.1
    Kolarov - Good points scorer for one of the league's top 3. I know he may be rotated...
    Davies - Just signed for Spurs and should get the permanent LB spot. Good money at 2.9m
    Debuchy - Cheap, and playing for a generally tightly defensive team. Nailed on starter I would imagine.
    Coleman - Had him last year and he did wonders. Will he reach the same heights this year? Priced highly enough to sub in someone else half decent should he start to miss games.
    Nasri - Should have another good season. Finished strong last year. Cheaper than Silva and Yaya.
    Ramsey - Potentially another good season on the cards. He's fit and raring to go, could be a decent points scorer again.
    Fabregas - I expect him to fit into Lampard's boots well, getting good game time and picking up points along the way. He knows the league and he's cheaper than Hazard.
    Sturridge - Not sure he'll be as good without Suarez but undoubtedly will be Liverpool's main man and has some good players around him.
    Giroud - Can see him scoring a bundle if Sanchez plays to the left of him, Walcott to the right and Ozil improves on last year.
    Bony - Decided to put him and make it 433 rather than go 442 and put in a midfielder of a similar price. 'Should' score some good points again this season.

    Your opinions/tips/comments would be greatly appreciated.
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  • Re: Lallana
    23 Jul 2014, 20:54

    brownie30 wrote:
    tiotom92 wrote:
    Im avoiding Liverpool this year. Champions League + no Suarez i think will equal poor value for money in FPL.


    I tend to agree with you on his one, I'm taking a step back for a few games to see how Liverpool shape up


    Yep, Rodgers is a fantastic manager though so it's possible they may do all right. We'll have to wait and see.
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  • Re: Lallana
    23 Jul 2014, 20:12

    They need more reinforcements to counter the loss of Suarez. Without him, they would have ended outside the top4 last season.
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  • Re: Lallana
    23 Jul 2014, 19:57

    tiotom92 wrote:
    Im avoiding Liverpool this year. Champions League + no Suarez i think will equal poor value for money in FPL.


    I tend to agree with you on his one, I'm taking a step back for a few games to see how Liverpool shape up
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  • Re: Lallana
    23 Jul 2014, 19:49

    Im avoiding Liverpool this year. Champions League + no Suarez i think will equal poor value for money in FPL.
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  • Re: RE: Best 9.0m midfielder?
    23 Jul 2014, 18:20

    No Suarez to dive about and get Gerrard the pens to boot in, this time....
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  • Re: formations? why three strikers
    23 Jul 2014, 18:15

    SuperGrover wrote:
    boise1234 wrote:
    theTinman wrote:
    magicdave wrote:

    i disagree currently based on last season the best three plays stats wise are all midfielders granted if suarez was here he probably would have been top ranking but none the less the following three would still have been midfield



    not sure what stats you are looking at but the three highest PPG last year were Suarez, Sturridge and Aguero....


    Yep. Even more impressive when you look at PP90. Of players with over 80 pts, 7 of top 9 were FWDs last season. In order:

    Aguero
    Suarez
    Sturridge
    Ramsey
    Toure
    Dzeko
    Podolski
    Eto'o
    Rooney


    Exactly. Although not sure what i'm going to do this year as i'm not liking the looks of the premium forwards (bar RVP).
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  • Re: RE: Best 9.0m midfielder?
    23 Jul 2014, 17:05

    ...of which Suarez won 5.
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  • Re: RE: Best 9.0m midfielder?
    23 Jul 2014, 17:00

    gooberman wrote:
    Noonster wrote:
    boise1234 wrote:
    Gerrad,

    for £9m you really want someone who takes their teams pens as well as contributing in general play

    To be honest I'm not sure why people are not going for him (including myself) he had a great season again last season and is surely nailed on to start most games this season too...


    His score last year was falsely bumped up by penalties, most of which earned by Suarez. With Suarez gone, I can't see them getting as many penalties.


    10 penalties last season....
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  • Re: RE: Best 9.0m midfielder?
    23 Jul 2014, 12:12

    Only the very best players are consistent at Sterling's age. He could be one of those players but the odds are that he isn't and he has a mixed season.
    If you can afford to take the risk then it might be very rewarding.

    I personally don't have a single Liverpool player. I'm not sure how they'll cope without Suarez. I'll be looking to see if they sign a big player to replace him.
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  • Re: RMT GobiLux
    23 Jul 2014, 12:04

    Great points. I love how sometimes you put a team together and think it's good and then somebody finds so many weaknesses in that team that it makes you wonder if you have any clue whatsoever :lol:

    I will disregard all your comments about the defense as that is still very much work in progress and will change a lot.

    Odemwinge I agree looks good on paper but had an awful season 13/14. One to monitor in pre-season.

    Sturridge I thought did brilliant last year without Suarez and I expect him to do much of the same if they play in as CF. If he plays alongside Lambert I might reconsider.

    Jelavic showed in his first season at Everton what he can do. He seemed like the best option in that price-range.
    Like it was suggested before though I might downgrade him to a 5m striker and upgrade Albrighton.
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  • Re: RE: Best 9.0m midfielder?
    23 Jul 2014, 10:46

    Billy Bongo wrote:
    So Sterlings goals came after Suarez returned from his ban? He's still a premium price for me


    Not sure what you're getting at. Suarez was banned until the end of September. Sterling only started playing regularly from the start of December.
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  • Re: RE: Best 9.0m midfielder?
    23 Jul 2014, 10:25

    So Sterlings goals came after Suarez returned from his ban? He's still a premium price for me
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  • Re: RMT GobiLux
    23 Jul 2014, 7:50

    While on the one hand it seems like a balanced team, it doesn't take into account fixtures and there are too many question marks regarding some of the players...

    1. Will Mannone play much? and How much?
    2. Wisdom at WBA... are they worth having? mediocre fixtures too...
    3. Ferdinand... tired and for an iffy defending team...
    4. O'Sea... awful fixtures.
    5. Albrighton... how will they (LEI) play? how will he fit in?
    6. Odemwingie... a great price for an OOP player but will he manage to do anything? More of a wait and see imho.
    7. Sturridge... without Suarez hmmm... not sure I fancy his chances much. and weak fixtures to start with too.
    8. Jelavic... 4th season in the EPL and his value remains the same... there's a reason why.

    :)
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  • Re: formations? why three strikers
    23 Jul 2014, 0:55

    boise1234 wrote:
    theTinman wrote:
    magicdave wrote:

    i disagree currently based on last season the best three plays stats wise are all midfielders granted if suarez was here he probably would have been top ranking but none the less the following three would still have been midfield



    not sure what stats you are looking at but the three highest PPG last year were Suarez, Sturridge and Aguero....


    Yep. Even more impressive when you look at PP90. Of players with over 80 pts, 7 of top 9 were FWDs last season. In order:

    Aguero
    Suarez
    Sturridge
    Ramsey
    Toure
    Dzeko
    Podolski
    Eto'o
    Rooney
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  • Re: Hatrick heroes
    22 Jul 2014, 23:16

    UPS wrote:
    Just 8 hattricks last season (3 of them were suarez)


    So predicting, say, 4 of them (50%) would be a good result?
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  • Reasonable expectation ?
    22 Jul 2014, 20:19

    In this game should you be aiming for a projected score of around 1600 from a starting XI and then 14 points per transfer (4x30=420) ?

    I was just looking at the information below and thinking if this is the 'norm' or was it that Suarez scored an unusually high figure last season and therefore an overall score of 1900 is more realistic

    1600 / 11 = 146 per player and that seems achievable enough. Or am I completely missing something ?



    Top 10 Managers Overall:
    Position Manager Team Name Points
    1 Gregory Wright 10Spot BSheff 2014
    2 Andy Moores Yorkshire Exiles 15 2013
    3 David Tattoo Daves Donkeys 2001
    4 Sandor Kovacs eve1 1999
    5 John Ward Mary Hinge 1998
    6 Steve Sargeant sarges red army 1994
    7 Martin Sharkey The Dons are Magic 1992
    8 Bruce Baer Tiffany Blake 1990
    8 Adrian Frost Even money 1990
    8 Adrian Frost Everton 1990

    Top 10 Starting XI:
    Position Manager Team Name Points
    1 Mark Blakemore Dave May in Poo Bay 1710
    2 Luke Bush lukeyboyz 1656
    2 Paul Puffett Paul Puffett 1656
    2 John Potts Arsenal 1 1656
    5 Eddie Elbows SOUTH SEA BUBBLE 1648
    5 Benjamin Klasmer Havelock FC 1648
    7 Paul Roberts Bains on toast 1647
    8 Shaun Sen Devil horns 1642
    9 Peter Clinch Gustavo Fring 1641
    10 Ahmed El Magdoub Tootsies Red Army 1640
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  • Re: Hatrick heroes
    22 Jul 2014, 19:40

    Just 8 hattricks last season (3 of them were suarez)
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  • Re: RVP, Sturridge, Costa
    22 Jul 2014, 19:12

    Of those three, the one I think I most doubt is Sturridge. Although I do think he's a quality player, there is debate about how well the new players in Liverpool's front line will gel. Don't forget that Sturridge and Suarez had a renowned understanding and there's no guarantees that Lallana, Remy, Markovic and Lambert will have the same impact.

    From memory, Sturridge still had great numbers and I remember the choice between them being quite close in GW6 last year before Suarez took off. His problem really is the 11.5 asking price which is obviously very expensive. You'd have to be captaining him a bit to make that valuable in my eyes and I'm not sure you would in the first 6 weeks or so.

    RVP, Costa, Dzeko (or indeed Aguero, fitness permitting) would all be captainable though.
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  • El Classico 2014/15
    22 Jul 2014, 18:38

    Real Madrid No.7-11: Ronaldo, Kroos, Benzema, James & Bale.
    Barcelona No.7-11: Pedro, Iniesta, Suarez, Messi & Neymar

    That's gonna be a boring game! :lol:
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  • Re: Daniel Sturridge
    22 Jul 2014, 16:00

    Billy Stark wrote:
    Some of the info on here is brutal, this thread is only one example. Only games Sturridge is likely to miss is the odd FA Cup game as long as he's injury free.


    So if Liverpool were to replace Suarez with a top quality big name striker, you would have Remy and Sturridge fighting for the second striker position, in the same way Dzeko and Negrado do at City and then you have Jovertic as further cover, Liverpool's further cover is Lambert.

    As it stands now Sturridge is nailed on, but are they happy to replace a striker from the very highest level with Remy and Lambert alone?
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  • Re: formations? why three strikers
    22 Jul 2014, 15:57

    theTinman wrote:
    magicdave wrote:

    i disagree currently based on last season the best three plays stats wise are all midfielders granted if suarez was here he probably would have been top ranking but none the less the following three would still have been midfield



    not sure what stats you are looking at but the three highest PPG last year were Suarez, Sturridge and Aguero....
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  • Re: formations? why three strikers
    22 Jul 2014, 15:33

    magicdave wrote:
    It's about variance.

    Defenders are low variance - compared to a striker they're relatively likely to score 4-7 points (a clean sheet, assist, some bonus) but unlikely to score 10-12. They're a steady source of relatively reliable points.

    Forwards are more likely to only get 2 pts or 10 pts... get a goal and an assist and you back some bonus on top. Get lucky with your strikers you score big, get it wrong you score low.

    Midfielders are sort of in the middle (duh) a bit more reliable than strikers but not as explosive most of the time.

    Then remember that FPL is about trying to finish in like the top 1% of millions of people. As was shown on other threads that takes A LOT of luck. If you pick forwards you are giving yourself the chance to be lucky... it could blow up in your face but you at least bought a ticket for the raffle. If you pick defenders you are ensuring you don't do badly but at the cost of not having the chance of doing extremely well.


    That said, this year the mids look particularly tasty so I might go 3-5-2, at least until u see which strikers are firing.


    i disagree currently based on last season the best three plays stats wise are all midfielders granted if suarez was here he probably would have been top ranking but none the less the following three would still have been midfield i'm not sure how the points were counted for last year but looking at the point system it clearly favors the mids which earn more points through goals then strikers and also earn clean sheets while being most likely to assist

    also during the world cup we saw the power of the no. 10 who were the best players and also highest scores and on this pointing system would also gather points from clean sheets.
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  • Re: RE: Best 9.0m midfielder?
    22 Jul 2014, 8:06

    gooberman wrote:
    Noonster wrote:
    boise1234 wrote:
    Gerrad,

    for £9m you really want someone who takes their teams pens as well as contributing in general play

    To be honest I'm not sure why people are not going for him (including myself) he had a great season again last season and is surely nailed on to start most games this season too...


    His score last year was falsely bumped up by penalties, most of which earned by Suarez. With Suarez gone, I can't see them getting as many penalties.

    This :!:
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  • Re: RE: Best 9.0m midfielder?
    22 Jul 2014, 8:00

    Noonster wrote:
    boise1234 wrote:
    Gerrad,

    for £9m you really want someone who takes their teams pens as well as contributing in general play

    To be honest I'm not sure why people are not going for him (including myself) he had a great season again last season and is surely nailed on to start most games this season too...


    His score last year was falsely bumped up by penalties, most of which earned by Suarez. With Suarez gone, I can't see them getting as many penalties.
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  • Re: Neymar, Messi & Suarez
    22 Jul 2014, 5:19

    It's an interesting contrast of styles.
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  • Re: Neymar, Messi & Suarez
    22 Jul 2014, 3:09

    Real will have Ronaldo, Bale, James, Benzema.
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  • Re: Players Prices 2014/15
    22 Jul 2014, 2:24

    The Real Slim Shady wrote:
    How much do you think these players will be next season in FPL providing they stay?

    My predictions;

    Suarez - 14
    Yaya - 12.5
    Hazard - 11
    Lallana - 9
    Sturridge - 10
    Coleman - 7
    Baines - 7
    Fonte - 6
    Ozil - 9
    Sterling - 8
    Ramsey - 8.5
    Mata - 9.5
    Rooney - 12
    RvP - 12
    Aguero - 13

    Not bad ...
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  • Re: Thoughts for next year
    21 Jul 2014, 12:58

    Didn't Suarez have a lot of his assists to Sturridge too?
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  • Re: Thoughts for next year
    21 Jul 2014, 10:41

    I wonder if Sturridge will be as prolific this year with Suarez missing. It could be argued that he'll get even more without Suarez, but IMO Liverpool won't do quite as well as last year and Sturridge will struggle for over 200+ pts. Nothing against him, I just reckon the service he receives won't be as good.

    WNP wrote:
    Gk
    1,Courtis/Cech (which ever one is 1st choice bus driver)
    2,Hart
    3,De Gea

    Def
    1,Cahill
    2,Kompany
    3,Ivanovic

    Mid
    1,Hazard
    2,Ramsey
    3,Toure

    Str
    1,Sturridge
    2,Aguero
    3,Sanchez
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  • Re: RE: Best 9.0m midfielder?
    21 Jul 2014, 9:32

    Voted for Ramsey


    Ramsey is nailed on and we saw last year what he can do.

    Ozil should come good this year and I expect him to be one of the first players on Wengers team-sheet week in week out.

    Fabregas used to be brilliant with long passes from deep into the striker when he was at Arsenal. With Mourinho's safety-first style that could suite him.

    Silva is brilliant on his day but injured too often for his price-tag.

    Mata could be one of the must have players this season, it only depends on where LvG is going to play him.
    With no CL or EL he can completely focus on the PL.

    Gerrard is probably going to play deep again with Sterling playing regularly but is on penalties and free-kicks.
    Not sure how good Liverpool will be without Suarez and back in the CL.

    Walcott is out until at least November.
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  • Re: RE: Best 9.0m midfielder?
    21 Jul 2014, 8:43

    Noonster wrote:
    boise1234 wrote:
    Gerrad,

    for £9m you really want someone who takes their teams pens as well as contributing in general play

    To be honest I'm not sure why people are not going for him (including myself) he had a great season again last season and is surely nailed on to start most games this season too...


    Personally I don't think Liverpool will score as many goals without Suarez which will reduce his assist output, nor do I think they will win as many penalties this year without Suarez which means less goals for Gerrard.
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  • Re: Thoughts on Dusan Tadic
    20 Jul 2014, 23:08

    goldenrookie wrote:
    Omg talk about negative mindset on the Dutch league ....what's with antiques road show shouts
    WILFRED BONY MAJOR PLAYER
    CHRISTEN ERIKSEN

    GET OUT u guys

    The situation these days are players have adapted to the EPL when good enough from the Dutch league ... For some reason people aren't talking about the most very recent season signings from Dutch league which would totally destroy their belief system

    I think you make a fair point about some excellent players having come from the Eredivisie and performed well in the Premier League, especially in recent times with the likes of Bony, Eriksen and Suárez. I think it's the failures that people really remember though, the ones that live long in the mind. You can't really blame people for being cautious about players who are unproven in the Premier League. And Lord knows there have been some spectacular failures.

    Even in recent times, you have Luuk de Jong's complete failure to do anything last season at Newcastle. And of course, Jozy Altidore was prolific in the Eredivisie not long ago, in between being absolute horse shit for two different Premier League clubs.
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  • Re: Rate my team please
    20 Jul 2014, 20:48

    Sammy the Crab wrote:
    I really wouldn't be going near Sterling at 8.5. Maybe that's just me being stubborn though as he was so cheap last year.


    He did have a good understanding with Suarez and despite a good season he did only manage 130 points so I agree.
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